How much fish do you eat? Broiled or fried makes a HUGE difference in HF!

HeartHawk
By HeartHawk Latest Reply 2015-05-26 01:22:30 -0500
Started 2011-05-30 09:44:53 -0500

As a heart disease sufferer I have learned to eat a lot of fish. Fortunately, I really like it. But it also makes a difference how it is prepared and a new study of 84,000 women proves it. You can read all about it here

http://www.heartconnect.com/news-articles/213...

It turns out, that, at least for heart failure sufferers, baked or broiled fish can significantly reduce risk. Unfortunately, fried fish signficantlly increases risk (which is tough for all us Wisconsinites where Friday fish fries are a tradition)!

So what does your fish diet look like? Please also share any good recipes here by linking to your recipe in the Heart Connect Fish Recipes section

http://www.heartconnect.com/recipes?category=...

There are already some really good ones there!

HH


78 replies

Queenlampeda
Queenlampeda 2011-10-09 20:10:33 -0500 Report

I love grilling any type of fish really, I place mine in foil; sprayed in non-stick spray and seasoned anyway you want it and I even put veggies in it to steam at times. Just check your fish to ensure you don't over cook it and don't cook it on high heat either. Pre heat and cook on low heat!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-10-09 23:48:16 -0500 Report

Queen,

Perfect! That's exactly like I cook it. Best part about tin foil is there is nothing to wash. Fish can be sticky!

HH

dsmburton
dsmburton 2011-08-12 16:02:25 -0500 Report

Boy I am probably gunna have the strangest reply to this. The thought of deep fried fish makes me sick because all it makes me think of is a sponge(the fish) sucking up the oil while it cooks. I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and even though they still call it a fish fry they always offer some type of baked, grilled or broiled fish.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-08-31 21:46:15 -0500 Report

dsm,

Yep, the word is getting out. I still like it fried but I almost always eat it grilled which I have really taken a liking to!

HH

CRASH1219
CRASH1219 2011-07-14 07:29:15 -0500 Report

Curse satan for giving man the deep fryer!You put a bucket full of deep fried fish in frount of me and its over dude.I love any fish except cat fish.In a pinch Ill take a can of tuna some brown or wild rice mix with a little lemon and orange juice,chopped cucumber its a great and healthy lunch or dinner with a side of kale.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-07-14 18:46:06 -0500 Report

Crash,

Fish fries in the Milwaukee area (almost all of Wisconsin actually) are almost a religion. Just remember not to overdo it!

HH

MWmelbourne
MWmelbourne 2011-07-13 11:06:02 -0500 Report

WEBER makes a MANGO LIME SEAFOOD Seasoning that's pretty good.. unfortunately as with most of these pre-pkg mixes the number one ingregient is salt. I'm also a big OLD BAY fan.

One thing we do a lot on the grill is to take filets on a sheet of alum.foil and alternate thin slices of orange (or lemon or lime) with thin slices of vadellia onion.. little season pepper on top & fold the foil over to seal it all in.. steam it on a grill. It helps keep things moist and helps keep the fish from falling apart!

My husband usually has a seperate foil wrap with potatoes and onions, sometimes mushrooms. I also use a lot of fresh ginger and garlic… explore.. you might be surprised. keep notes and see what works and what doesnt'.. have fun!

If you dont have a grill.. this can be done in the oven on a cookie sheet.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-07-14 18:48:17 -0500 Report

MW,

Yup, grilling is great. It can be a little labor intensive and you want to watch out for over-cooking (producing advanced glycation end-products) but it creates the next best thing to frying in terms of "flavor effect."

HH

tankmom
tankmom 2011-07-12 22:52:36 -0500 Report

Wow on the amount of posts here. I tried fish tacos once and never again. I think it was more the thought of a piece of thin greasy looking, not very well prepared fish that they said was talapia. I suppose I can look beyond that and try them again from somewhere else. I also fry fish in a little olive oil. It gives it a distinctive tase along with some Mrs. Dash seasoning mix. I just don't fix enough fish as other members don't care for it as much as I do. How about a fish boil? We have a private family that owns a business. They serve chicken and or ribs if you want them with the fish. The fish boil has been named as being better than others further north in Wisconsin. Reasonably priced and always excellent fish.

Avajlaas
Avajlaas 2011-10-05 19:47:14 -0500 Report

I love Mrs. Dash fiesta lime seasoning. It is so good on so many things. I wanted to ask about the Talapia though, I read on the health label that it is chocked full of cholesterol…would this be a positive cholesterol or not??? Just like shell fish are very very high in cholesterol, but I know they have the bad cholesterol.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-07-13 09:20:28 -0500 Report

tank,

Funny you should mention fish tacos. I tried salmon tacos once and they were quite good. About a month later I met someone who had the salmon tacos at the same place and got food poisoning!

Ditto on the fish boils - a standard attraction on Door County Wiscosnin!

HH

Geny59
Geny59 2011-07-12 12:28:19 -0500 Report

I pan fry my fish for fish tacos in a little olive oil. is that good or not?

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-07-13 09:26:07 -0500 Report

Geny,

Great question. Obviously there is some good and bad here. The olive oil is good but the frying not so much. One theory is that high heat in oil creates unhealthy compounds known as Advanced Glycation End-products (AGEs). My cardiologist friends recommends that if you are going to fry keep the heat as low and cooking tiime as short as possible.

HH

MWmelbourne
MWmelbourne 2011-07-12 18:48:52 -0500 Report

I LOVE fish tacos.. I sear talipia using a "pam" type product and add ginger or garlic… sometimes chopped peanuts.. I do a lot of THAI hot.. and a lot of citrus - trying to increase the metabolism.

harley64
harley64 2011-06-29 22:30:21 -0500 Report

I like eating fish myself, but not to many people in my house seem to care for fish so I don't buy it . When I do I like the lemon pepper fillets. I too seem not to find different ways to spice it up. I like to use a variety of seasonings when I cook.

Avajlaas
Avajlaas 2011-10-05 19:55:26 -0500 Report

I watched my health deteriorate because others in the house didn't like this or that, so I told them to cook for themselves and I would cook for me. If you wait for others to change their mind and eat healthy you loose. Get tough for yourself, treat yourself well, and you will fair well by your choices. Something I just learned a while ago , but just put into practice very recently. Wish you well!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-07-13 09:27:38 -0500 Report

harley,

Too bad on the family situation - their loss - but that means more for you, lol! Indulge when you can!

HH

Avajlaas
Avajlaas 2011-08-10 22:59:16 -0500 Report

I love fish of all kinds. I have tried Mrs.dash" fiesta lime" is great on chicken and fish , even made a veggie soup with it and added cilantro. Great flavor! I also like my fish of any kind with dill and lemon. I do have a question though about shrimp and lobster…are they good cholesterol or bad. Have patience please, I am knew at this…I do know that they are very high in cholesterol though.

berrykins0
berrykins0 2011-06-16 07:24:15 -0500 Report

anyone for pickled herring thats other of my favorties for fish and do forget the beets. anyone ever had lutefisk?it's a norwegian fish yuck to me. we used have a norwegian buffet 2 times a week werei used work.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-16 23:20:24 -0500 Report

berry,

Heh, lutefisk! Had several Scandinavian teenagers living with us over a seven year period and even they disliked lutefisk! Note that lutefisk (generally cod) is "cooked" by soaking it in lye - yikes! The name literally means lye-fish. If you have never seen or eaten lutefisk imagine "fish jelly" that smells like, well, fish jelly!

HH

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-06-03 16:50:00 -0500 Report

I usually eat broiled fish at least once a week. Catfish, bream, and flounder are my favorites. But my favorite seafood is shrimp (boiled please with crawfish seasoning).

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-06 23:35:05 -0500 Report

Lab,

Bream, man, ya sent me to Wikipedia with that one. Where do you find bream?

HH

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-06-13 14:41:48 -0500 Report

Southeast in ponds. I grew up in Georgia and fished for it all the time. Now, I live in Louisiana and have some in the pond on our leased land next to our property. Yum!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-13 23:03:08 -0500 Report

Lab,

Yeah, and to think I have been to Louisiana a dozen times and as a big fish eater never had bream. Next time - although I am still a big fan of crawfish! Crawfish boulette, crawfish etouffee, french fried crawfish, yummy!

HH

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-06-14 09:52:58 -0500 Report

You'll have to fish for it. I don't think they sell it in fish markets and i know they don't in restaurants. Nice tender meat.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-14 23:39:03 -0500 Report

Lab,

Arrrgh, don't usually bring a fishing pole. What do you need? I assume just a pole, line, hook, and bobber. What about bait? Nightcrawlers?

HH

Avajlaas
Avajlaas 2011-10-05 20:01:39 -0500 Report

OK, again with the shell fish and shrimp, never got an answer about their extremely high content of cholesterol??? Please get back to me on this one. I love these foods like I love to have air to breathe…lol

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-10-07 23:24:58 -0500 Report

Avajlaas,

The new opinion on dietary cholesterol is that it is not as importatn as once thought. Drugs like Zetia that reduced absorption of dietary cholesterol do not seem to be as effective as drugs like statin which reduce your body's ability to make cholesterol. Asl your doc if it is important for you as we are all different.

HH

Avajlaas
Avajlaas 2011-10-08 15:19:19 -0500 Report

Thank you for your reply. I am one of many that do not fair well with statins. They make me ill. So I have to watch very closely what I eat. I will see my Dr. soon though and will definitely ask about that. Thanks again, Be well

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-15 22:47:26 -0500 Report

Lab,

Heh, did most of my fishing in Wisconsin and Florida. Never used crickets, although I ate a few, chocolate covered as I recall, lol!

HH

lcucchiara
lcucchiara 2011-10-04 16:38:00 -0500 Report

I too grew up in GA and as a child we devoured many a bream … delicious fresh water fish!! As I recall, it had LOTS of little spiny bones though - only negative. Of course that was back when I could eat fried fish… those days are gone forever.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-10-04 23:47:01 -0500 Report

lcucchiara,

Well,you could always bake or broil the bream! I like fried fish too but broiling has become my substitute.

HH

lcucchiara
lcucchiara 2011-10-05 01:19:03 -0500 Report

broiling may work… but that was just a memory from my chidhood. I am more into salmon & haddock on the grill these days. We have fish at least twice weekly. My husband had a 100% blockage in his LAD back in July … no prior problems or warnings, just happened one day. We have not eaten fried foods in years.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-10-08 22:17:30 -0500 Report

lcucchiara,

I just finished smoking some salmon, trout, and whitefish - yum! The best part is it keeps a LONG time although many recipes call for soaking it in brine so it adds a lot of salt.

HH

Linda715
Linda715 2011-06-07 08:49:42 -0500 Report

I heard that you should eat fish baked 2 times a week? I liked my fish baked my mom will only eat it if its fried I hate that because fried food is not good for your body.She's 73 and set in her ways.I tried different ways she refuses to eat fish unless I fry it! what should I do ??

berrykins0
berrykins0 2011-08-12 14:39:43 -0500 Report

my mom isn't any better i know what it's like pulling teeth.my mom has a fit if i don't at least bread it and bake it she hates it broiled i love it that. i changed how i eat fish. she won't i get frustrated. but that's all i can do. she will never listen to me. i guess that's that.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-07 23:37:39 -0500 Report

Linda,

I really wise doc (my cardiologist Dr. William R. Davis) once said, "Chris, what good is it if I get you to live to be 83 but you are miserable?" I lost my Mom to a heart attack at age 65 and would do almost anything to get even another day of her alive. But, she died having the time of her life everyday, including the day she died in a hotel room with all her friends after a party down in Memphis (can you say "road trip?"). Her funeral was the only time I ever saw six women as pallbearers - all great friends. She was in good hands to the end.

Given the study I just cited, perhaps all you can do is stop serving fish!

The best you can do is provide counsel, love her, and savor every remaining day. I know it's not the answer you were hoping for - but it is the truth as I know it!

HH

Linda715
Linda715 2011-06-07 23:53:49 -0500 Report

Thank you! I have thought about that too.My mom is 73,I want her to be happy too.Sorry that you lost your mom,good thing she was happy,I guess that does matter a lot! My brothers say I need to prepare myself,she's very sick and refuses to quit smoking 60% of her artery's ? are clogged ,she said she wanted to die happy.Thanks so much for your input! greatly appreciated!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-09 23:41:17 -0500 Report

Linda,

Although I am a computer nerd I have never been I have never been a big fan of social networking - but the stuff that goes on here is just something special. Here we are, probably hundreds if not thousand of miles away sharing experiences about what to do in tough family situations.

Your input is appreciated also. Even when answers are not so obvious just understanding you are not alone is uplifting. Thanks for sharing your struggles as well!

HH

Te Ja
Te Ja 2011-06-10 13:43:53 -0500 Report

My mom passed away 6 month ago, tomorrow would have been her 68th birthday. As much as I miss her, she also died happy. She ate what she wanted when she wanted, I know in my heart that if she had stuck to a proper diet she would still be alive thou exstreamly unhappy.
Linda I wish the best for you & your mom for I know how you feel.

Linda715
Linda715 2011-06-11 12:21:50 -0500 Report

Thank you for replying I make my mo milkshakes I put Mila has Omega 3s I put,grapes ,strawberry's but I peel the seeds off ,I put fresh cherries,carrots a little sweet potato's,half stick of celery,2 egg whites,Diabetic boost sugarfree icecream since her gums hurt her,she's on 25 different medications,she won't eat before 1 or 2am so I make her milkshakes and every other day I crush an Iron pill and put it in her milkshake sinse I can't get her to take it 73 yrs.old and is set in her ways. Sorry for your loss!I don't know how I am going to handle it when my mom passes away I'm not ready and I'm sure no one ever is,I lost my dad 9/28/10 at 77yrs.old C.O.P.D.My parents were married 56yrs. So she is depressed and talks about my dad a lot.I listen.Is this milkshake I make to much for a diabetic,since I can't get her to eat untill 1 or 2 am.This is all I know to do.She sleeps alot! Thank you for your reply's it's GREATLY APRECEATED!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-12 22:51:49 -0500 Report

Linda,

Sounds like severe depression may be the biggest problem and may require professional help and medication. My grandmother was the same way after my grandfather died and essentially stopped taking her meds so she could die too. She was so vibrant before and just shut down afterwards. She died Christmas Eve in my old bedroom in my old bed at my parents house after everyone stopped by to wish her one more Merry Christmas.

It's never easy and getting someone to seek professional behavioral help is even harder than getting them to a regular doc. This is an area where we all feel helpless and inadequate. It is sad but nonetheless part of life. I would check to see if your county government or city has any programs. They would have mopre experience in these matters. Stay strong and keep in touch!

HH

Linda715
Linda715 2011-08-31 19:37:24 -0500 Report

HeartHawk sorry to hear about your grandma.I went with my mom to see the Dr.Her Dr.put her on medication to help her appatite she only 85 pounds so he wants to see her back in less then a month hopefully she will put on weight before then.Thank you!God bless you!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-10 21:41:58 -0500 Report

Te Ja,

My sympathies for your mother. I know my mom hated getting older. But she bragged about living longer than her father (who also died of a heart attack) which was her goal. She didn't live much longer but she did have that.

Great memories and many stories we all tell over and over. Funny how we are all different in many many ways yet reall all the same!

Thanks for sharing! It really helps.

HH

Linda715
Linda715 2011-09-01 13:23:18 -0500 Report

Thank you for reply! my mom started her medication to help her want to eat She's diabetic and has heart trouble,high bloodpressure she takes about 25 medications a day I gave her some strawberry yogurt and a little cottage cheese yesterday morning.I make her milkshakes with egg white,mila,carrots,a few grapes,cherries,sugarfree ice cream.She took her pills to help her appitite.Then when I got supper ready she refuses to eat.If I didn't make her milkshakes she would have already died.I have diverticulitis,and its impossable not to be stressed out.any Idias,her Dr.told her to eat 6 small meals a day,I'm lucky to get her to eat 2 meals in 1day.Thank you!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-09-03 22:51:12 -0500 Report

Linda,

My impression s that your mom is suffering from depression. Has she been evaluated for depression and are any of the meds prescribed to treat it?

HH

Linda715
Linda715 2011-09-04 01:55:19 -0500 Report

Thank you HeartHawk PA for answering yes she is on meds for depression,she takes a lot of medication.I called and got her in to see a Dr. I told them that she don't eat they told her to eat 5 small meals a day she said she couldn't do that so they told her to drink 4 diabetic boost a day she is only 85 pounds .I think she is severly depressed and has anarexia.she will not tell the Dr. the whole truth,I told the Dr.And in order for my mom to go home she had to agree with the Dr. Well she hardly eats anything now.I bought diabetic vitamins 2 months ago for her and she won't take them.I wanted her to really be put in the hospital for further evaluation.But the Dr. just sent her home. Thank you!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-09-06 23:31:02 -0500 Report

Linda:

This isn't going to be easy advice but my suggestion would be to get a different doctor who cares. To send a clinically depressed patient home who he knows will not follow his prescriptions and likely to regress is malpracticing in my humble opinion.

HH

s8ntdeer
s8ntdeer 2011-06-02 14:31:49 -0500 Report

I eat fish everyday for lunch with a big salad and freshly almost steamed vegetables. I like to take Tilapia and soak it in F/F Buttermilk (or regular buttermilk too) with Dijon Mustard, a touch of Louisiana Hot Sauce and Lemon Juice…then drain off marinade and Pan Saute the fish, 2 minutes both sides and finish in the oven. You can keep the marinade also and use for a few days.
Top this off with lemon Zest and some Horse radish ( I like Hot, from New orleans!) and go to town. Healthy and soooooo good!

Linda715
Linda715 2011-06-08 00:00:21 -0500 Report

That sounds soooo good! I love fish.I just can't eat hot stuff like I used to,I love hot sauce,I have diveraticulitis,and Dr. says I can't have anything spicey? plus hot sauce causes hot flashes.I hate it! I love the sound of that recipe .

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-06-02 23:52:56 -0500 Report

s8ntdeer,

Any relation to "re1ndeer"?! Sounds delicious. I wonder if it would taste good with salmon? I may gove it a try! Darn, now you made me hungry, LOL!

HH

s8ntdeer
s8ntdeer 2011-06-03 09:20:00 -0500 Report

haha, saw that too! I like it on salmon, but I get the saute pan extra extra hot and almost do a blackening technique. Spray the fish with pan spray after you coat in Zing sauce and hit the pan with a touch of olive oil or avacado oil…then cook quick!

re1ndeer
re1ndeer 2011-05-31 22:49:25 -0500 Report

I love the Friday fish frys in Wisconsin, but don't have them very often.

But what I really enjoy is the Good Ol' Wisconsin Fish Boil (In Port Washington).
This is another great dish but is very high in sodium (I have the recipe), So, when this comes around (like once a year) I splurge and go there for the best fish boil around. ( I did not post because of sodium content.)

I usually, will make baked tilipia, in a lemon butter and garlic sauce. And serve it with new boiled potaotes and asparagus.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-05-31 22:55:19 -0500 Report

re1ndeer,

Yes, the fish boils in Door County are also fabulous! I generally just buy a piece of fresh fish (usually salmon or trout) and broil it. What I really need are some good fish sauces/marinades/spices to enhance the flavor and reduce the "fishiness" of some fish types.

H

Catresq
Catresq 2015-05-26 01:22:30 -0500 Report

I like to use the Slap Ya Mama cajun seasoning to spice it up after a soaking in milk to mellow out the fishiness.

re1ndeer
re1ndeer 2011-06-01 01:38:33 -0500 Report

Hope this helps you, growing up as a 2nd generation American. Both my parents and grandparents, used to soak the fresh Fish in Milk for about 1 hour, before preparing it.

s8ntdeer
s8ntdeer 2011-06-02 14:34:05 -0500 Report

We have a sauce made right here in Durham, NC and they have diet version also, Zing Sauce made by a lovely elderly Asian couple Cheng and Weng. It is absolutely wonderful, it is a yellow raisin and Vinegar based sauce…sooooo good!

berrykins0
berrykins0 2011-05-31 11:15:18 -0500 Report

smart healthy choice way to eat fish is broiled me to eat it this way that is true it's wisconsin tradition. i work in a hotel for 16 yrs and it gets pretty busy on those friday night figh buffets. i now work in a motel cleaning rooms. get burnt out working in a restraunt.i love fish too lake fish the best fish you can get next salmon.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-05-31 22:58:27 -0500 Report

berry,

I have always been a fish lover although I was brought up on fried fish (walleye fried ina beer batter, yum). But I also enjoy broiled fish of all kinds. AS I was telling re1ndeer I need some dast and esay ways to "spice up" the fish as I normally broil it plain.

HH

Te Ja
Te Ja 2011-05-31 09:58:49 -0500 Report

I only broil, or steam my fish. I love it fried but no longer eat that way.

CWMecca
CWMecca 2011-09-03 13:38:35 -0500 Report

I don't have a broiler so I usually bake or oven fry tilapia. I grew up fishing with my dad, usually for bass up at my uncle's cabin in Canada. He'd soak it for a few hours in beer to kill the 'fishy' taste and then whip up a beer batter to fry it in, YUMMY! I haven't had that in forever.

I marinade the fish in lemon, a bit of olive oil, fresh cracked pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, and paprika. I like flavor so I'm still experimenting with seasonings.

MWmelbourne
MWmelbourne 2011-07-13 11:08:30 -0500 Report

in the south.. fried fish is a staple and I have had zero success in getting my Mother to try steamed or broiled fish.. but I haven't given up! She will eat tunafish & salmon from a can!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-05-31 23:03:32 -0500 Report

Te Ja,

Thanks for chimimg in. A short sentence on a topic is very valuable. What people often do not realize is you do not need to write the "Gettysburg Address."

20 one-sentence replies reflecting the input and experience of 20 people is much better than one 20-sentence reply reflecting the expereince of one person!

Keep it coming! Most good converations are a series of "one liners" in a brisk back and forth discussion.

HH

HH