Have You Switched to Diet Soda? Some Sobering News!

HeartHawk
By HeartHawk Latest Reply 2012-01-29 22:12:39 -0600
Started 2011-02-13 00:03:37 -0600

Many of us may have made the switch to drinking diet soda as part of our healthier lifestyles - but - it may be time to rethink whether diet soda is a problem as well.

A new study found that "People who had diet soda every day experienced a 61% higher risk of vascular events than those who reported drinking no soda." Here is a link to the article.

http://www.theheart.org/article/1183721.do?ut...

Scientists are not certain why this is but this is certainly sobering news to many of us. How many communities members made the switch thinking it was a healthier alternative to regular soda? Anyone completely quit drinking soda? If so, what have you replaced it with?

HH


50 replies

AuntieBear
AuntieBear 2012-01-27 02:15:03 -0600 Report

I tried diet sodas and other products with artificial sweenters and found out they are bad for me. I am allergic to most artificial sweeteners. Aspartame and Saccarhine give me a drug resistant migraine with vertigo and projectile vomiting that ruptures the blood vessels in my esophagus. As for splenda, if it is baked or cooked into food I have no problem. Mix it into teas or kool-aid and I retain fluid super bad. I do ok on stevia and truvia.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2012-01-27 22:07:18 -0600 Report

Auntie:

Wow, that is the most violent reactions I have heard of. No fun I am sure!

HH

AuntieBear
AuntieBear 2012-01-28 02:53:54 -0600 Report

I know several people who have sweetener reactions similar to my reactions. It was through one of these people that I finally figured out that I am allergic to the stuff. I was not happy as I really enjoyed Diet Dr. Pepper. But now that I know, I can work around it. Hershey's has a sugar-free version of the original Hershey Bar. The sugar-free version comes in miniature size and they are sweetened with sugar alcohol. I do ok on those.
It is just a matter of being very careful when you try an alternative to something.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2012-01-29 22:12:39 -0600 Report

Auntie,

Yeah, I do the same thing with chocolate products and like the Hershey's syrup that uses the sugar alcohol erythritol. Unfortunately, most manufacturers use the dirt cheap maltitol so they can calim it is sugar free. Problem is it still has a fairly high glycemic index and causes REALLY BAD gas, lol!

HH

ladyJENbugz
ladyJENbugz 2012-01-25 11:44:20 -0600 Report

To my understanding there is still sugar (artificial sweetners) in "diet" sodas.
So the best thing is to stop drinking it and start drinking
spring water.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2012-01-25 21:14:19 -0600 Report

Lady,

Not really sugar in that it does not have any carbohydrates or affect blood sugar the same way but it is a chemical. However, you are right in pointing out that water is, of course, still the best!

HH

s8ntdeer
s8ntdeer 2011-06-08 16:29:41 -0500 Report

I for one do not put any fake sweeteners in my body and never will. There are studies now that are looking in to what exactly happens when the tongue tastes sweet and then no calories come into the blood stream. I'm not a doctor but this just doesn't seem to be a good idea. And besides, moderate use of sugar, unless a diabetic, is absolutely fine and every fake sweetener I have ever had is disgusting!
There is just no way you can convince me they are safe and I am positive the more studies they do, the more links to other health risks will pop up. And to those that put these sweeteners on and in everything it is still not a good idea even if they were safe. You will never lose weight and get healthy sucking on real or fake sugar all day!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2012-01-25 21:16:47 -0600 Report

s8ntdeer.

Good to hear form you again! You speak wise words! Everyone is different but one thing is certain, you can't eat, or drink, your way to health and weight loss.

HH

Anonymous
Anonymous 2011-04-19 09:39:06 -0500 Report

I've been diabetic since age 5. Diet sodas are all I remember and I love them! I've been drinking them for 40 years and don't intend to stop unless I KNOW it is detrimental to my health. I've had diet soda with every kind of sweetener they now say is BAD! I have never yet had kidney stones, so hopefully, I am immune to them! Coke Zero is my first choice. If a restaurant has only Pepsi products, I choose water or another drink.

ladyJENbugz
ladyJENbugz 2012-01-27 11:49:40 -0600 Report

The soda companies don't care
if it makes one sick. People are
so addicted they keep on buying
and buying and buying. You all should
by stocks in the poison. Just my humble
opinion.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2011-04-19 09:04:50 -0500 Report

I've been diabetic since age 5. Diet sodas are all I remember and I love them! I've been drinking them for 40 years and don't intend to stop unless I KNOW it is detrimental to my health. I've had diet soda with every kind of sweetener they now say is BAD! I have never yet had kidney stones, so hopefully, I am immune to them! Coke Zero is my first choice. If a restaurant has only Pepsi products, I choose water or another drink.

Linda1965
Linda1965 2011-04-19 09:04:21 -0500 Report

I've been diabetic since age 5. Diet sodas are all I remember and I love them! I've been drinking them for 40 years and don't intend to stop unless I KNOW it is detrimental to my health. I've had diet soda with every kind of sweetener they now say is BAD! I have never yet had kidney stones, so hopefully, I am immune to them! Coke Zero is my first choice. If a restaurant has only Pepsi products, I choose water or another drink.

Linda1965
Linda1965 2011-04-19 09:03:50 -0500 Report

I've been diabetic since age 5. Diet sodas are all I remember and I love them! I've been drinking them for 40 years and don't intend to stop unless I KNOW it is detrimental to my health. I've had diet soda with every kind of sweetener they now say is BAD! I have never yet had kidney stones, so hopefully, I am immune to them! Coke Zero is my first choice. If a restaurant has only Pepsi products, I choose water or another drink.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-04-19 23:28:47 -0500 Report

Linda,

At the end of the day, diet drinks are still far superior to sugared products particularly for diabetics. And keep in mind a causal relationship has not been established. The data only show an association which means it is not necessaril the diet soda causing the problem.

HH

BandonBob
BandonBob 2011-04-19 09:00:37 -0500 Report

Being a diabetic I changed to diet soda to get rid of the sugars. A year ago I quit drinking diet soda and am back to just water.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-04-19 23:25:14 -0500 Report

Bob,

Congrats, it's hard to do. I recently began making lemonade as a substitute mixing water, lemon juice concentrate (e.g. Real Lemon) and Truvia (Stevia) which is essentially the sugar alcohol erythritol. Erythritol causes little blood sugar response and does not produce the terrible gas problem that malititol does. I can easily drink a quart at a sitting which helps keep me hydrated.

HH

Judy560
Judy560 2011-03-21 12:59:22 -0500 Report

Have you tried Izzi's? It's a fruit drink and it's good for you. I hated diet sodas when I was hospitalized last year. Then my daughter brought me some izzi's and the nurses and the doctor where happy with my blood sugar counts.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-04-19 23:16:24 -0500 Report

Judy,

Thanks for sharing this find with the community. Izze natural sodas are a lower carb, sparkiling beverage (87-107 calories per 8oz serving). There is another version called "Izze-esque" which has half the calories. Note that while both these products are lower carb they are not carb free so drink them with discretion if you are diabetic. They do look tasty though!

You can find more info here.

http://www.izze.com/

HH

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2011-03-08 18:28:39 -0600 Report

I don't remember liking regular soda, give me diet! That said, I share a can of diet w/my husband, a sip here, one there…but, some of the flavored ones…Diet Rite Raspberry or Tangerine, etc, and I drink my share! Drink water by choice, used to like Crystal Lite, not sure why we stopped. I do like the CL popsycles and hard candies!

I usually drink one 5.5 oz tomato juice a day with pills, drink Ocean Spray Diet Cran-Grape and Cran-Raspberry and Tropicana 50 OJ.

S2

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-03-09 00:28:31 -0600 Report

S2,

You said you are on Diabetic Connect as well so I am curious about the tomato juice. I find is does not raise my blood sugar much. How about you? It is important for all heart disease sufferers to monitor blood sugar!

HH

squog master
squog master 2011-03-20 13:34:46 -0500 Report

Hi HH, new here but a member of a lot of the health communities including DC. I do drink some diet soda but also CL, water and low sodium tomato juice. I find the TJ does not spike my blood sugar. It also is packed with potassium. I use it as a base for soups and stews. I have it hot like tomato soup. No Campbell's tomato soup for me. This is much better, richer flavor. I add spices and anything else I care to.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-04-20 22:53:09 -0500 Report

squog,

Ditto on the Tomato Juice and alcohol as well which surprised me (means I can still drink Bloody Marys, lol). Watch out for any processed tomato products liek soups and pastes which they LOAD with sugar. Had a bowl of fire roasted soup at a restaurant on an empty stomachrecently and my BG shot way up!

HH

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2011-03-09 04:33:23 -0600 Report

I haven't noticed a rise in BS. Dr said since I am in such good control (5.8 last A1c, but stopped Actos after that reading and testing is higher as he said it would be…we will see next A1c), he won't worry about the salt in the serving. I LOVE tomato juice! It is low in carbs and counts as a veggie. DON'T like V-8. S2.

My husband is the heart patient, and I try to watch his carb control…not to toomuch success. He had an A1c and it was 6.5, higher than mine…doc told him no meds yet since it is a # showing good control. That was his VA primary. We will see his Medicare primary in a few weeks, and I will ask him too. At least we have an appt with a dietician this Fri and a weight management class lined up in Apr…same teacher for the class was my teacher in my diabetes class refresher.

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-03-11 22:44:23 -0600 Report

suzie,

Heh, you're HbA1c is identical to mine - but- I would like it even lower, 5.5 or less because of new data on BS and cardiac events. Still, 5.8 aint bad! Keep up the good work.

Glad you can tolerate tomato juice as well. Of course, for me it is because I can still drink Bloody Mary's, LOL!

HH

griz104
griz104 2011-02-18 09:56:37 -0600 Report

My Grandmother had gotten me in the habit of drinking Water with Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey and to this day i still have 4-5 16 Oz. Glasses of that each day and in the Summer maybe even more as then i usually make it by the gallon..Other then that all i drink is water and a couple cups of Coffee every day…

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-03-05 23:20:38 -0600 Report

griz,

Wow, that's quite a bit. I have heard about that combination before. Any first-hand experience you can share about its benefits?

HH

griz104
griz104 2011-03-08 20:37:01 -0600 Report

The reported cures from drinking Apple Cider Vinegar are numerous. They include cures for allergies (including pet, food and environmental), sinus infections, acne, high cholesterol, flu, chronic fatigue, candida, acid reflux, sore throats, contact dermatitis, arthritis, and gout. Apple Cider Vinegar also breaks down fat and is widely used to lose weight. It has also been reported that a daily dose of apple cider vinegar in water has high blood pressure under control in two weeks! It also balances the Ph in your system..Pectin in the vinegar is a fiber which helps reduce bad cholesterol and helps in regulating blood pressure. The need for calcium supplements once you start growing older is very well known. This vinegar helps extract calcium from the fruits, vegetables and meat it is mixed with, helping in the process of maintaining strong bones. Potassium deficiency causes a variety of ailments including hair loss, weak finger nails, brittle teeth, sinusitis, and a permanently running nose. Apple cider vinegar is loaded with potassium. Studies have shown that potassium deficiency results in stunted growth. All these ailments can be avoided with the intake of apple cider vinegar. The potassium in this vinegar also helps in eliminating toxic waste from the body. The beta-carotene helps in countering damage caused by free radicals, helping one maintain firmer skin and a youthful appearance. Apple cider vinegar is good for those wanting to lose weight. It helps in breaking down fat which helps in natural weight reduction.

Apple cider vinegar contains malic acid which is very helpful in fighting fungal and bacterial infections. This acid dissolves uric acid deposits that form around joints, helping relieve joint pains. This dissolved uric acid is gradually eliminated from the body.I had had very high Uric acid and was taking pills to lower it..However within a couple months of Drinking Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey i had lowered it to a very reasonable level and quit taking the pills..

It is claimed that apple cider vinegar is helpful in ailments such as constipation, headaches, arthritis, weak bones, indigestion, high cholesterol, diarrhea, eczema, sore eyes, chronic fatigue, mild food poisoning, hair loss, high blood pressure, obesity, along with a host of many other ailments. No wonder then many know apple cider vinegar as the "Wonder Drug".

The Apple Cider Vinegar that i get has what is Called "Mother" in it and that is something you need to look for when buying it.. I get mine from Vitacost.com and it is a couple bucks a quart..It is a acquired taste for sure and also when drinking it it is advisable to use a straw as it is very hard on the enamel on your teeth.. I have a friend who started drinking it and after 6 months had dropped a bit over 45 pounds..When you drink it it does make you feel like you are full..

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-04-20 22:56:25 -0500 Report

griz,

WOW! Thanks for the treatise on Apple Cider Vinegar. I never knew. Anyone else using it in the community?

HH

griz104
griz104 2011-03-11 07:27:27 -0600 Report

For myself i use a half a pint of Vinegar and 6 tablespoons of honey.. It works fantastic as a thirst quencher for me.. But everyone is different and some like it stronger and some not as strong.. So i guess my recommendation would be to start with what ever you think and go up or down as YOUR taste goes..

re1ndeer
re1ndeer 2011-02-15 19:03:07 -0600 Report

I tried diet soda once when I became a diabetic, did not like the taste. Occasionally I'll have white soda or gingerale if I have a problem with my stomach.
I will have one cup of coffee in the morning, then for the rest of the day I'll drink water with a slice of lemon in it. This also, helps curb my appetite, so I eat less.

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-02-15 12:18:59 -0600 Report

When I first found out that I was diabetic (1995), I replaced my sodas with water. That soon got boring so I switched to diet drinks. I was "hooked" on diet coke before I had my gastric sleeve surgery in Oct, 2010. Now I switched to POWERADE ZERO. I have to drink at least 64 oz of fluid a day and this is an easy way to track it. Sometimes I use the powder drink mixes like crystal light. I mix 2 envelopes into my 32 oz bottle and chill it overnight.

rebekka010305
rebekka010305 2011-03-21 12:35:50 -0500 Report

They also make GREAT tasting diet green teas that come in the single serve pouches! They are excellent for spicing up your fluids. I drink about 32oz of it every day.

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2011-02-15 08:01:30 -0600 Report

Morning
Great article - I've been drinking diet caffene free soda for about 7 years, ever since my heart attack and diabetes. But after reading the article I might have to rethink what I'm doing. It's going to be tough after all these year. I do also drink diet green tea. Here in our area there's a company that make tea that's addictive. So until I find something else I guess I'm going to have to cut way back on the diet soda. Thanks for the article.
Denny

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-02-17 23:24:21 -0600 Report

Lenny,

I agree but truthfully I am at the end of rope on "giving up" stuff altough I have cut back. Still, they haven't PROVED diet drinks are the problem - just that there is an "association" as I mentioned and opined about.

HH

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-02-15 08:28:19 -0600 Report

Lenny,

Thanks. This article made me do a double-take as well. I did a little more research and there is a catch. The study merely found an "association" between diet drinks and disease but did not say it "caused" it. As a statistics junkie this is my favorite example about the difference between association and causation.

  1. Everytime a plane flies by my house the dog barks.
  2. None of these planes ever lands in my back yard.
  3. Therefore, it must be the dog's barking that keeps planes from landing in my backyard.

Clearly, dog barking is associated with planes not landing in my backyard. Did the dog barking "cause" the planes to land elsewhere by scaring them away? No, more likely it is the other way around, the planes scared the dog into barking. Now let's try another example.

  1. Everytime a stranger walks by my house the dog barks.
  2. None of these strangers ever enter my back yard.
  3. Therefore, it must be the dog's barking that keeps strangers from entering my backyard.

Once again, dog barking is associated with a result - strangers not entering my backyard. Did it cause this result? In this case, probably, but we still cannot be certain without more data. Intuition and common sense helps us in the "dog barking" example but we have no such intuition about complex chemical reactions and human behavior.

Perhaps soda drinkers in general - diet or regular - are largely people who engage in some other unhealthy behavior associated with soda drinking like eating junk food. Replacing a regular soda with a diet soda doesn't solve their problem. Did the diet soda cause the problem? We don't know. In this case, it might be the junk food that does the damage and the diet soda is just along for the ride!

HH

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2011-02-15 08:54:38 -0600 Report

For me the problem came first - when I found out that I was diabetic is when I started drinking diet soda, a was addicted to regular soda before that. I had been used to eating what ever when ever I wanted with out problems. I seemed after the Illiostomy I could eat anything I wanted without gaining weight. It wasn't until after the heart attack that I started eating healthier. Now I only treat myself once in a while with junk food. It has become a thing of the past. It seems that when you get sick things change fast, I had been a smoker for almost 40 years and when I had the heart attack I quit while I was in the hospital, and have not smoked for going on 8 years, so I guess something good may have come from it.
Denny

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-02-15 23:01:23 -0600 Report

Lenny,

Excellent! Me too on the soda - addicted - also on weight gain - eat like pig but still skinny. No one would guess I had heart disease. Now, the fight is on. Time to kick butt!

HH

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2011-02-18 08:59:14 -0600 Report

I wish I could eat like that - I'm fighting to keep the weight down. The dr. says I'm not to heavy for my size. I'm 5'11" and weigh 225 I think it's to heavy but I keep fighting to get it down. I'm searching for a new addiction, something with no calories. Like that will happen. As you said, the fight is on.
Denny

KimberAnne1222
KimberAnne1222 2011-03-07 03:33:59 -0600 Report

Crystal light has been the best thing for me. In my body, dark sodas cause kidney stones. Had them 3 times in my early twenties (when I was addicted to Dr Pepper and Coke, lol), and the Doc at the time said it was definitely due to dark soda so I started drinking Gingerale and I'm diabetic so not liking the taste of diet soda I started drinking water. As was stated earlier by another member gets boring so thats where Crystal light comes in, so mainly I drink Water and CL with an occasional gingerale. A few months ago I started cheating a drinking maybe a glass of coke in a month and can u guess what I'm dealing with right now, yep a kidney stone, lol. Back to crystal light!!

HeartHawk
HeartHawk 2011-03-09 00:44:43 -0600 Report

Kimber,

LOL, it is so funny to find the multiple conditions we all have in common. Just had my kidney stone blasted using lithotripsy. I found that taking in lots of magnesium may have helped as the stone kept shrinking on the CAT Scans and x-rays.

HH

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2011-03-07 07:20:22 -0600 Report

Morning KimberAnne - I might have to try Crystal Light - I do drink a lot of water, I also am diabetic, and it's hard to find the right thing to drink. As I said before I need to find another addiction, plain water does get boring. I do drink some diet soda, it's hard to give up. We all have to cheat once in a while or we might start cheating all the time. The dr told me once that if we cheat once in a while it keeps us from doing it all the time. Thanks for the info.
Denny

KimberAnne1222
KimberAnne1222 2011-03-07 19:50:29 -0600 Report

I totally agree with that statement I know as for me, I'm that way, if u wave a candy bar in front of my face and deny me a bite, I'll go buy 1 myself and eat the whole thing but if I take 1 bite I'm good and don't eat anymore. It's hard to give up something that u love so much and for me that love is food!!! Love the smell, love the taste, love everything about it, but unfortunately it doesn't love me back :( lol

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2011-03-08 06:57:02 -0600 Report

I some how know that feeling, when I had my heart attack I was told what I should or should not eat and I have to give up a lot of things I really loved. Then a couple of years later they tell me I diabetic and again I had to give up a lot of things I loved to eat. I'm like you, I love food. The only thing we can do is find a balance and try to stick to it, with a little cheating now and again:)
Denny